Since the announcement of a new Star Trek series from CBS, we’ve heard a few details on the creative team behind the next chapter of the long-running sci-fi franchise – which includes former Deep Space Nine and Voyager writer Bryan Fuller as showrunner, along with Nicholas Meyer (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan) on the writing staff – but so far there’s been a complete lockdown on information about the show itself.
Well, we may now have one nugget of information about the setting for the series, with Birth.Movies.Death posting a rumour suggesting that it will take place between the events of Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country and Star Trek: The Next Generation. Furthermore, it will exist in the original timeline, rather than that of the NuTrek continuity established by J.J. Abrams’ 2009 reboot.
SEE ALSO: Star Trek on TV: The Undiscovered Future
The site also goes on to suggest that the new series will be heavily serialized, won’t take place on the Enterprise, and may still feature villainous Klingons, despite the fact that it will take place after the Khitomer Conference, which opened peace negotiations between the Federation and the Klingon Empire.
What do you make of these rumours, and what would you like to see from the new Star Trek show? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below…
SUZIEQ says
I wish that these types of shows would quit going backwards, Once I see the advanced technology, I want to see more advances not go back to when the stuff hadn’t been invented. It’s like reading the final pages of a book and then going to the beginning, I already know the outcome, let’s move on to new adventures not rehash the old.
WhatMeWorry says
But, there are new adventures to be had. New stories told of times past. Stuff we have yet to see.
Lawrence Sena says
New stories, but they would be the same old same old…..
Fighting humanoid aliens, techno-babble about the shields and phasers and sensors, and transporter accidents…..
anonymousjon says
Correct me if I’m wrong.
James T. Kirk was
apparently a better captain because: If I’m not mistaken
1. He never had a warp core breach
2. He never had to ejects the warp core
GregR says
What outcome do you think you know? It’s not the same as re-reading a book. This would be like a whole series of new books. Even though you think you already know the outcome, you don’t know how it happened. What advanced technology do you think you’re going to be missing out on? TNG still used tricorders, replicators and transporters. Besides, the shows aren’t about advanced technology. They’re about people.
anonymousjon says
I thought it was about space exploration.
Michael says
The problem with that is that it makes for boring story-telling given Roddenberry’s edict about personal conflict between members of Federation species. I’ve also heard writers on “Voyager” complain that the late-24 Century Starfleet technology (plus Borg upgrades) in Voyager’s possession made problems in the story too easy to solve.
stackedaktor says
Only because they reset the series at the start of every episode!
If Voyager had actually run out of torpedoes and/or the ship wasn’t magically back in perfect shape every week, they would have had more good stories to tell. Same if they had made the Maquis integration into the crew more realistic.
Travis Lobmier says
Voyager should have had a lot harder time than it did. Apparently they were able to hit a fully stocked supply depot between every episode. There’s a Youtube video that documents the torpedo complement throughout the show’s run. I think they were around -30 by the end of the series. This is taking into account all the times they actually were able to get new weapons.
Michael says
I saw that video. I was hoping Voyager would have some plot line about the crew purchasing or bargaining a few more ships because either (A) Voyager herself was taking on too much damage or (B) Ensign Samantha Wildman wasn’t the only one aboard having babies.
Ricky Odom says
amen to not going back the story’s already been read move on to fighting borg maybe even a semi rogue crew
Mike Dymski says
Yeah why they going backwards, probably cause hollywood has lost all creativity these days, and cant think of anything new to do, so they just rehash rehash, remake everything look at 99.5% of the movies are remakes and remakes and remakes
WhatMeWorry says
But, there are new adventures to be had. New stories told of times past. Stuff we have yet to see..
disqus_jB3QMnzUB7 says
The problem with “new stories” in an old time-line are that you have to mess with “cannon” like they did on “Enterprise” with the Xindi doing things that never appeard in the “history/back-story” of the NEWER shows like STNG.
GregR says
99.5% are remakes? Where do you get your statistics? How are they going backwards?
Mike Dymski says
look at every movie thats has come out, remakes or reboots, spiderman for instance is a prime example, ghostbusters coming out this summer reboot, max max (tom hardy) reboot, list goes on and on , they just keep remaking and rebooting every movie in existance
Mike Dymski says
as far as star trek, the new series is taking place between kirks star trek and picard, why not move past that and just create a new series continuing the timeline , be orginal create something new not stories based off old history like after kirk and before picard, start fresh new exploration and adventures not same ole routine
Foomankru says
I hate to call this out but this is no longer an argument. Reboots and revisits have been happening for at least 25 years now. The example that always comes to mind is the Addams Family movie. Don’t ask me why, it’s just always the first movie I think of when I see this complaint lol
It’s the way of the industry, it’s nothing new by any means.
Ted C says
Will all the characters be gay, “trans”, black, Hispanic, Asian, Arab and female or will they buck the diversity cries and have at least one token white straight male character? Or will they just be in the background sweeping the floors?
Gary@FlickeringMyth says
Have you seen Star Trek before?
Stryder Kennset says
Yeah…..It’s like Ted, WTF man? Star Trek was the first tv show featured the first ever interracial kiss (between a certain James Tiberius Kirk and Uhura), the first ever Black Captain (Ben Sisko), first female captain etc. Star Trek have always been groundbreaking because its view of human in the future will be seen as a “complete whole”, not just Caucasians, blacks, Asians, and Hispanics etc.
hesuarez says
So to answer Ted C, Yes……… ROFL
Travis Lobmier says
Ted is referring to the point after which it was ground-breaking. Like the fact that Voyager had the most pc bridge crew that it was no longer a complete whole, but just a Hispanic, an Asian, a black guy, etc. Also, Sisko was not the first black Captain and Janeway was not the first female captain.
The first inter-racial televised kiss was Nancy Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. December 11 1967 on “Movin’ in with Nancy”. The episode of Uhura kissing Kirk aired in November 1968. You could say something like “It was the first scripted show with an inter-racial kiss.”
Paul Reason was made a 4 star Admiral in 1996, so he beat Sisko, not only to Captain, but straight past to Admiral.
Darlene Iskra was named Captain of the USS Opportune in 1990. Janeway came around in 1995.
Star Trek was very forward thinking, but your facts are off.
daddyjay76 says
He was talking about first black/women Captain being star of the a star trek series not the first ever thoughout star trek history. I think everyone knew what he meant.. throughout the history of star trek we seen plenty of black captains and women Captains
Travis Lobmier says
If that’s what he meant, then the entire context of his argument makes no sense. You can’t say a show is groundbreaking by only comparing it to the internal workings of the show itself. It has to be compared to something outside the show.
Like I said before, I do agree with his comment that Star Trek was groundbreaking and pushed a lot of boundaries. Those 3 facts he gave were just off. Even though Star Trek was not the first televised interracial kiss. It was still a big step forward. Just saying Sisko was the first black captain starring in a Star Trek show doesn’t mean anything if it was already socially accepted that a black person can be in a position of responsibility. Which, by that time, it was.
daddyjay76 says
I was looking at your reply but I don’t see it on here but I see your point and he did over sell it alittle.
Travis Lobmier says
It’s weird. I don’t even see your original reply to my comment, other than in my notifications.
GregR says
He probably curses that kiss, because look where it led? Ted is surrounded by people who look different and are different than he is.
anonymousjon says
And next they will be integrated rest rooms for men and women and less not forget, those LGBT’S
Travis Lobmier says
They had that episode. Riker tried to bang them all. Because… Riker don’t care!
Adam_Rodriguez says
Hopefully it will now be ground breaking and have a return of real men in this sjw plagued media? I’m hispanic, but I would love for another type of Will Riker and James T. Kirk character and less “whill” wheaton.
WhatMeWorry says
Oh god. Maybe Wil Wheaton will play is own grandfather or some shit lmao
anonymousjon says
Please no, not W. Wheaton!
GregR says
Poor Ted seems to be feeling threatened or left out because the entire cast will not be made up of white males.
Jack the Rooster says
Doomed to failure. You’ve got fans of the original Kirk and crew, then you have the fans of something new and original. This new scenario is a sad compromise. Personally I have no interest in more DS9 or Voyager as they were, in my opinion, soap operas disguised as Sci-Fi. So was Next generation, for that matter. Anything of the original Kirk and crew had far more action, adventure, and tech, and far less drama than any other Star Trek endeavors.
Adam_Rodriguez says
Outside of TNG, (soap opera, but actually good) a solid comment Jack.
GregR says
They are science fiction, but they are also sophisticated morality tales. Sometimes holding a mirror up to ourselves and the reflection ain’t too pretty.
disqus_jB3QMnzUB7 says
DS 9 was definititly NOT a “soap opera” and was far and away a better show than Next Gen. NG had the most boring characters ever assembled in a TV show – on DS 9, everybody acted the way people actually ARE, not like zombied-out Stepford People.
Shaun Rochet says
This is just terrible news. absolutely depressing, Deep space nine had the best writing overall arch’s, Enterprise was just a bone to chew on … the Xindi really? Voyager had some great episodes, like the 29th century borg concept, that’s pushing the limit that’s the fun stuff. The traveler/ westley crusher, why not export more in that territory… But to go in between two series is just lame… who cares??? why should I care? why would anyone care? Everyone wants to know what has become of the federation 10 years after Voyager shared with them all the advances like slipstream tech, Janeways armor… what happened to Sisco and if he is with the prophets why not explore those plains of existence. The Dominion have so much knowledge to share, and the 100 that were sent out… are they in different galaxies? And poor Las, he was infected by Odo with the virus that was killing the founders, does that an he is dead? Did he find more of the 100? The time ship relativity…? but no I guess its typical Hollywood, why actually make a show that pushes the limits of science fiction, when you can go along for same ride on the same train, in the same town… oh joy… I cant wait…
Really guys this is the worst news possible for Star Trek as a whole, the whole concept was about the future , about Growth about EXPLORING, but now we are caught in this crap time with the same boring bunch, Klingons, romulans, cardassians, demilitarized zone. I once wrote two books “not published” first one was Wesley Crushing having to pass a test called the Transcendence its part of something all Travelers do, takes him to the same plain of existence, Kes, Q, Prophets all exist in. He is tasked with Helping the voyager Crew home, but one thing leads to another and they wind up killing the borg. But he falls in love with Seven of 9, second book is about her being a traveler, and it it takes from all of star trek lore. Seven of Nine now a traveler, realizes that the Voth are coming to Earth in secret to destroy it, so it wont interfere with Doctrine. She realizes the probes sent by the Voth in star Trek the Voyage home are for a secret sect of their people that knew about Earth, and you find out the whales and dinosaurs had communications and that the Voth helped the give rise the mammals as a last ditch effort to keep life around if they didnt make it. and that the Voth were really keeping tabs on Earth, but now the whales are gone and the Voth want Earth erased and it was she who tasked with it.
Now I am not saying my stories are the path of the future, but at least they are semi original and take characters we know and push them into the future dealing with threats that are far superior and explore history and doctrine.
I just wish the news I read today was bogus, and the new show would take place in a future that leans on the history of the last four series and promotes the growth those shows had on the future. Sorry guys if this is true I probably wont watch the new series just doesn’t sound interesting.
Michael Benjamin Mitchell says
The time between the TOS and TNG is where Picard got his start on the StarGazer. And the Enterprise C was lost supposedly with all hands at Narendra III and trois father lost his life on a diplomatic mission.
datastorm says
Great post, Shaun! Awesome!!!!
Along the lines of what you said, there is so much more potential for the exploration of material hanging out there. I want to know more about Species 8472 and fluidic space, the holographic StarFleet headquarters training facility, and it would make sense that Species 8472 uses the training facility to train new recruits to join starfleet, if they decide to continue their partnership with Janeway and become full federation members against Borg. Or what about the asteroid colony that Neelix helped stabilize in the second to last episode of season 7. Neelix is now Telaxian ambassador to the Federation!!!
Also, since the entire senior staff on Voyager are aware of the existence of the Omega particle, does starfleet promote them all to Captains of various ships to maintain secrecy. i.e. Do Tom, Harry, Seven, Chakotay and Tuvok all get their own ships and head back out to the Delta Quadrant and team up with the Telaxian fleet.
Cool stuff to think about.
Nate says
I would rather they go back before the movies, in that 20 years wasted just after the end of the original series.
What happened to the Horta? What about the androids of planet Mudd with a whole “species” predating Data?
We can still have all of those advantages the other series’ had by having a good writing team, there is no reason to go even further into Star Trek’s future.
C_J Maxx says
I too would rather see new episodes that take place after all the other series and movies. It’s like watching Titanic, we already know the outcome no matter how good the story is. I never watched “Enterprise” until a few months ago for that very reason. I admit that it was better than I expected but I always knew the outcome. Give us some mystery for the main dish and let history be the sides. But I suppose something is better than nothing.
GregR says
It’s not all about the outcome. The most important thing is the journey.
Ray Thorne says
Ever since I saw the 1st J.J. Abrams Trek I’ve said he was destroying the franchise. After I watched my 2d J.J. Abrams Trek I said “never again”. Now it appears that the franchise itself agrees with me. J.J. Abrams has done to Trek what the Klingons, the Romulans, & all of the other adversary civilizations couldn’t do. He’s wrecked it.
thewayward1 . says
IF by wrecked it you mean made it live again and making it profitable then yes he wrecked the sh!t out of it. If you don’t like the new stuff re watch the old stuff but let the rest of us move on with the series.
Michael says
JJ Abrams sole motivation for rebooting Trek was to submit audition movies for picking up the next “Star Wars” Trilogy.
Travis Lobmier says
The first one didn’t bother me so much, and I thought it was a clever reboot of the franchise. The second one was a train wreck full of school children and bunnies.
Ryan Hall says
I am very encouraged by this news. I’m thrilled there’s something – anything – new from a real Trek guy set in the real Trek universe. This Abrams crap has been a travesty, not Star Trek at all. Anybody talked to John de Lancie yet?
thewayward1 . says
Well people have different likes and opinions the new movies are for the people who want a modern version. The way I see it Abrams modernized a failing franchise.(If you can ignore the giant federation warship in the sequel) If you want everything to be like the old then watch the old. I have been a fan since was knee high to a grasshopper, I have watched 5 series and 10 movies in that universe I am ok with moving on for now. They did an excellent job of finding a new crew and I can’t wait for the new one. I am saddened to here they might not be doing a show in the new universe.
CAD guy says
Capt. Sulu then??? Probably not but would still be cool.
Gregg says
Over the years, the more I think of Captain Sulu, the less I like the idea. Even the one episode of Voyager that he was the Captain, thought it was horrible.
CAD guy says
Yeah but that was on Voyager so it doesn’t really count 😉 😉
Answer Man says
Ooohhhh Myyyy!
stackedaktor says
He was fine, I thought. It was Janice Rand that gave the wooden performance.
Robert Allen says
I’d watch something set in this era. Especially if they keep the Horatio Hornblower uniforms from the movies. However, I want to watch something set in deep space, boldy going “out there, thataway.” If it’s just a bunch of teenage angsty drama set in Starfleet Academy, I probably won’t even tune in for the first episode.
Adam_Rodriguez says
Won’t lie. Kinda worried. DS9 sucked till the last half and so did Voyager. To much time taken to “figure out” the story and floppy characters. I’d be happier with TNG writers.
Lyle Durham says
Did you watch TNG’s first 2 seasons?It wasn’t perfect by any means.
Brian Fink says
I suggest watching Chaos on the Bridge which is on Netflix. It is a Shatner documentary interviewing people involved with the first two years of TNG and why it was so terrible. There was a lot of in-fighting among the writers, producers and directors which is why Gates McFadden left after season one, Denise Crosby requesting to be killed off, and Wil Wheaton being made into a huge joke.
Adam_Rodriguez says
Even if TNG had a bit of awkward period in characters, the story quality it had were actually pretty good.
disqus_jB3QMnzUB7 says
I loved DS9 from the beginning and it only got better and better and better. Voyager…meh. Lost interest. Enterprise…quit watching after the Xindi thing – that was a stupid story-arc.
godelleb says
Since the series was initially designed to be episodic with a diversity of characters across multiple story lines wouldn’t it have made sense for these episodes to take place over a number of centuries including predating 2235(NCC1701) and post dating 2900+? Story lines including the creation of a unified Earth, pre-interstellsar visitation by alien cultures, creation of the Federation, the break between the Romulan and Vulcan races, the establishment of space stations across the quadrants, etc. could all be told. There are enormous opportunities being overlooked.
Dusty Mac says
well all my excitement just died. remember when Voyager got back to the Alpha Quadrant with that badass armor and advanced weaponry? THAT’S what I was excited for. Maybe even a Star Trek Time Traveler series, imagine Star Trek mixed with Doctor Who! They completely and utterly dropped the ball on this. Enterprise, while I liked it, was a flop, partly because it was a ‘prequel’. People don’t like going backwards in a futuristic show. And add that to CBS’s asinine streaming service only release, this Trek is doomed to fail. 🙁
Michael Benjamin Mitchell says
Voyager DS9 and TNG are all from the same era. It will be interesting if this new era is going to encompass everything from the battle of Narendra III to the 2nd battle of Khitomer. so hopefully this series will run longer than 4-7 seasons as there is alot of stories to be told.
photon_plumber says
All very wonderful, except CBS is putting it behind a pay wall. This new ST won’t be on their standard network, but a pay-for-view network. I believe they will pay a price for this, as the negative comments displayed on various websites over the last few months (since this was announced) have not been positive. CBS may have inadvertently stepped up digital piracy.
Ryan says
please dont!!! make it the 25th century, or something post Voyager or deepspace 9… no more prequels or midquels…please
Lewis says
BETWEEN the original series and TNG?? Sounds like a so-called “Midquel” to me. Come on, Hollywood. After seeing the latest trailer for the third installment in JJ’s NuTrek, I was utterly disappointed and ANGRY!
I really wanted to see what happens after TNG, Voyager, and DS9. I’ve been a fan since I was 5-6 yrs old. You damn right! I remember watching TNG as a kid that young. When I first heard of a new Trek series coming, I was excited. More so because of the possibility of taking place after the events of all three Trek properties. I just hope it’s good!
Richard Standifer says
I agree with all who say that new material is needed instead of going backwards with another prequel. I also agree with the young lady who said that all those storylines that were left unanswered should be explored. Like, what happened to Wesley Crusher and his traveling? Has Ben Sisko returned to the wormhole aliens for good, or is he going to be returned to DS9? What happened to the Voyager crew once they returned to the Alpha Quadrant? Did Odo leave his people to be with Kira? How are Will Riker and Deanna doing on his ship? What happened with B4 since Data’s demise? Has Picard been promoted to Ambassador as was suggested in the last show? These are just some of the questions that I am sure many Trek fans would like answers to, instead of rehashing old timelines.
disqus_jB3QMnzUB7 says
YES!
Negan says
This is excellent news. As a die-hard Trekkie, I can’t wait for this series to come out.
Ted Kopulos says
That time period has the best uniforms in Trekdom.
Answer Man says
Dear whoever the heck is in charge of “Star Trek” as of today:
Nobody cares what happened between Undiscovered Country and Next Generation, period. See, we’ve already seen the 24th century with Next Gen, DS9 and Voyager, why would we want to see the what, 23rd 1/2 century? Why do you think nobody watched Enterprise?
While it could have been good, all it did was rehash stuff we had already seen and screw up the timeline. We need to move forward, not back, to the 25th century, and beyond.
What happened after the Remans tried to wipe us out and destroy the Federation? Whats going on with the Romulans since Romulus was destroyed? Was there an all out war after the attack on the Federation by Nero? Have the Romulans now become the alien trash of the galaxy? Do we still have a treaty with the Klingons, still allies?
Whats up with the Borg? Are they still in need of a good analgesic cream?
GregR says
JJ Abrams new timeline prevents the new show from going further into the future.
disqus_jB3QMnzUB7 says
No it doesn’t. It’s in a different timeline, while “old” Trek is still happening as shown “pre-JJ-Abrams” in a totally different timeline. Trek “diverged” into 2 time streams – “regular” still going as always with NG, DS9, Voyager while “JJ Abrams” time stream future is yet to be known.
Answer Man says
Why do you say that? Abrams created a divergent timeline, separate from the original. The prime universe still exists and has nothing to do with the current movie timeline. Plus the fact that the television show and films are now separate entities as far as I understand it, two different companies with rights to two different things.
Travis Lobmier says
No it doesn’t. The timelines are separate and CBS has the option of working in either, or both universes. Hell, they could have a core universe/Abrams universe/Mirror universe crossover war if they wanted.
Ben says
So it’s rumored to take place around the time of the Original Series movies then?
nph53 says
i like that they are going back to old time line for tv. the action reboot works for the films, but you need the more intellectual, sci-fi elements to make a weekly show work. not to mention the backing of the trekkies.
Doctor Spork says
” which includes former Deep Space Nine and Voyager writer Bryan Fuller as showrunner, along with Nicholas Meyer (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan) on the writing staff – but so far there’s been a complete lockdown on information about the show itself.
Well, we may now have one nugget of information about the setting for the series, with Birth.Movies.Death posting a rumour suggesting that it will take place between the events of Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country and Star Trek: The Next Generation. Furthermore, it will exist in the original timeline, rather than that of the NuTrek continuity established by J.J. Abrams’ 2009 reboot.”
THANK THE PROPHETS . Best news I’ve ever heard in a very, very, long time.
Its about time we got some actual Star Trek again, not that shitty millennial JJ HipsterTrek
d l says
There was an episode I believe called the “Pegasus” where this old ship was lost and last seen in the Romulan territory. It had a cloaking device and could go through matter. But it overheated and got stuck in a meteor. This cloacking device was not supposed to be produced for the sake of maintaining peace between the different factiions. Maybe the writers could explore bring this illegal cloaking device back.
John Bartholomew says
As long as Shatner is kept away,it might be watchable.It would be good Nimoy were still alive to be involved.
Nicholas Wells says
It’s risky. “Enterprise” failed because they went too far back, and had to come up with story lines that didn’t work after the second season. A mid-quel, as I would call this, bears a similar risk, as you have to take into account the events after.
That said, there is stuff to be had. Don’t forget, it was the Enterprise C that made the alliance with the Klingons work. WIthout them, war eventually broke out. So yes, talks have started, but that does not guarantee good relations, or an end to wars. For one thing, some houses could reject the talks. So there are ways to do it well.
Ultimately though, I’m far more nervous than excited. They’ll undoubtedly try to go heavy on the action, or heavy on the intrigue (As in X-files, Lost, ect). Neither is what Star Trek is best at doing. It’s about the human condition, it always has been. If they don’t honor that, it doesn’t matter what setting they’re in, it will still fail.
Really they should hire the writers of Axanar. Those guys have shown they know exactly what Star Trek is supposed to be. Even though it is a war, there’s a lot more to it than just the combat.
Kenneth says
There is a plethora of things that happened in the time between (the Original Star Trek) and the (Next Gen Star Trek) like the (Eugenics War, War with the Klingons, Catastrophe’s caused by time travel and giving alien worlds weapons that led to the (non interference Prime Directive to be Star Fleets ‘Rule #1).
Kenneth says
Kelsey Grammer was a Starfleet Captain in that time between the Original Series and Next Gen. maybe they will bring him in.
Mazi Shirakh says
Why go back again? They tried that with the Star Trek Enterprise and it did not work too well. Why not set it for just after Star Trek TNG and use some imagination for characters and technologies to make it work. Plus TNG was the most successful Star Trek series and by setting the new series after that, you can occasionally have fun with the TNG events!
bob says
so stupid. no suspense,we know what happens in the future. they must go forward past tng and ds9 and voyager.
Stormwatch says
Good, JJTrek was garbage.
Ryan Hall says
Sure is.
Michael Cramer says
Scott Bakula killed the franchise
Let it stay gone….
davidatc says
I just hope that the series is paradigmed with Gene Roddenberry’s sense of optimism and not a bunch of the Hollywood action cliche’s. I’ve got nothing against Scott Bakula but “Enterprise” really did produce a number of coffin nails for the series’
GregR says
I’m glad they’re sticking with the original timeline. Although, I sort of wish it would take place on the Enterprise. The USS Enterprise, itself is a Star Trek character.
William Johnson says
It doesn’t matter. All the spin offs have been too pasteurized to be any good. The fan film that just got banned looked like the first decent attempt.
hforman says
Why would I want to watch a show written by people who have so little imagination that they can’t come up with something different than what was already done before? I mean reboots, prequels, sequels,remakes,… Doesn’t anyone have an imagination enough to come up with ANYTHING new? A totally new idea? Next, they will bring back MacGyver.
Joe Stitz says
i don’t feel comfortable watching a trek show that takes place after the Khitomer conference but then there is, war ? And not on the enterprise ? hm. well, at least hoping one, two part episode could be made, how to Annihilate the borg. And then dealings with Q also. Just who, to play captain, and first officer…?
Ricky Odom says
i just q is now where near this show that and hollow decks
Joe Stitz says
you mean, lower decks ? was episode title.
Ricky Odom says
i mean hollow deck episode’s ruin stng for me
Zach Cage says
WTF is wrong with these studios? They half listen to the fans. We do not want it set in reboot garbage, and we want it to be AFTER VOY….fine, they say, set in the original timeline. WHEW. But BETWEEN TOS and TNG….cool right???? UM. NO. NOT COOL DUMMIES!
Ness S. Satie says
To The New Star Trek Producers:
Trek will continue to suck until it learns its lesson from Babylon 5. We are not interested in a show where – at the end of an hour’s viewing – everything goes back to where it started. We are the generation of Lord of the Rings and The Matrix. We want a universe where anything is possible, but choices have consequences. Trek is not worth either the financial or temporal investment so long as it continues to be merely episodic – we original “trekkies” want epic. So go back – go forward – go Abrams – but (whatever you do) – GO BIG!!
Ray Gandy says
So, you must have enjoyed the Enterprise series. Week after week going after the Zindi? IMO, it became boring and tiresome, and ruined that series.
Unlike most people here, I initially enjoyed Enterprise because it should how Starfleet developed it strategies, learned tactics and even how the onboard warning siren was chosen. Plus, the original Enterprise was not a plush environment like the starship in TNG, and so was more realistic. But, for some reason, the writers felt the need to use the Zindi storyline.
I like the different episode stories, with some 2 parter’s mixed in.
Ness S. Satie says
Even though my comments were explicitly directed to the producers of the new Trek series, let me respond to you –
I’m not ashamed to admit that I enjoyed Enterprise more than any other Trek incarnation since TOS. And yes, Season Three was tiresome and boring – Brannon Braga has as much as admitted that it should have been an arc that lasted no more than 4 months – but remember what was occurring at that time. The Enterprise team was looking for a way to comment on 9/11, the burgeoning War on Terror, and the unseen consequences of the Patriot Act on American Culture. It was a bold departure for a production staff that had spent the last 15 years perfecting the 24th Century Formula of TNG, DS9 and Voyager. They could have merely sat on their laurels and continued to spew the same innocuous, formulaic, episodic drivel that had been funding their paychecks for 2 decades. But, instead, they started practicing social commentary on a level that not even Roddenberry had ever attempted; all while trying to absorb the lessons presented to the Trek brand by the challenge of Babylon 5. Unfortunately, the learning curve proved to be too steep for them…Having said that, I also believe that Roddenberry would have applauded what they were trying to do with the Xindi concept. But, if you didn’t tough it out until Season Four, then you missed the fruits of those first three failed seasons. I mean, admit it – Seasons One and Two could be used to anesthetize patients before surgery. Two or three decent episodes out of a 22-episode season is an unacceptable batting average for anybody (although it’s probably higher than the first two seasons of TNG, DS9 or Voyager).
My fear is that the most important lessons have gone unlearned. Namely, when “rebooting” one of these franchised shows, go into it with a clearly understood beginning, middle and end. We’ve been doing this kind of theatrical endeavor long enough to understand that TV shows have finite lives (with the possible exception of The Simpson’s). So, take that into account when performing the calculus of your formulations. Also, if you are going to attach the label STAR TREK to your show, at least have the decency to shoot for Mr. Roddenberry’s ideal of “boldly going” into the unknown. Show me something new – confront me with the unfamiliar – challenge my preconceptions. I understand that the “Captain’s Chair” is a metaphor for my living room couch – you start there, you end there – I get it! I’m just saying that articulating that at the beginning and end of each episode is as boring and tiresome as spending an entire season among the Xindi. Here’s a novel idea: why not go back and try to realize Roddenberry’s failed series, Gary Seven. That leaves you free to exploit any time or place that you want, without being tied to some archaic spaceship. You could comment on the entirety of human history – including what came between TOS and TNG, what came after Voyager, maybe even what happened to the Temporal Federation of the 29th century. Would such a platform be acceptable to any Trek fans out there, or is such a vision still too “bold” for color TV?
William H. Nelson says
If it’s not on the Enterprise, or on a starship, and it isn’t in space, then it sounds boring as hell. DS9 didn’t even get good until they got the Defiant. I shudder to think of a Star Trek that boldly goes nowhere, but instead stays on a planet the whole time. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Snoresville.
Joe Lee says
I hope they start exploring Uranus!
OlFashion says
So, they didn’t learn from Enterprise that Star Trek is supposed to be about the future, not backstories? I want to know what happens next, in the 25th century, not more of the 22nd or 23rd. That 1st Star Trek reboot movie did ok, the next one not so much and this 3rd one probably won’t be any better. If this new show is another backstory set earlier it will be DOA and won’t get a second season and then so much for the new Star Trek Series!