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Joel Schumacher reflects on Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, and Bat-Nipples

October 12, 2014 by Gary Collinson

Over the weekend George Clooney took the opportunity to apologise once again for his part in the 1997 travesty Batman & Robin, a movie which brought the Batman franchise – and indeed the entire superhero genre – to its knees.

Now director Joel Schumacher has reflected on both that film and its 1995 predecessor Batman Forever in an interview with Variety at the Hamptons Film Festival, where he was being presented with a lifetime achievement award for directing.

During the interview, Schumacher spoke about both his Batman movies, addressing Bat-Nipples (“I think that will be on my gravestone. It’s how I’ll be remembered.”) as well as defending the cast of Batman & Robin and taking full responsibility for its failure. Here’s what he had to say:

Your “Batman” movies aren’t as dark as Christopher Nolan’s.
I was never able to go into the darkness. Because of “Batman Returns,” families had objected that it was too adult, which is no criticism of Tim Burton’s. When they offered it to me, I went to Tim and said, “This is your franchise and they want me to do it. I won’t do it if you don’t want me to.” He said, “Take it, please! I can’t do another one.” Even though “Batman Forever” is really sexy, it was a movie the whole family could see.

You introduced nipples to the Batsuit. Were you surprised they became so controversial?
Yes, I was like, “Are you kidding me?” I think that will be on my gravestone. It’s how I’ll be remembered.

But “Batman Forever” was a box office hit.
It was the biggest movie of the year and the cheapest “Batman” ever made. It cost under $100 million, with Val [Kilmer], Nicole [Kidman], even Jim [Carrey] was still coming up. “Batman Forever” was total passion. My bosses let me change Batman. Jim was inspired as the Riddler. Tom Lee Jones played Harvey Two Face. Drew Barrymore is in it. Debi Mazar plays a bad girl. It has a great cast and everyone did a great job. It was fun to create a “Batman” movie.

Then came “Batman & Robin.” Was it your idea to cast George Clooney as Batman?
No, Val left at eleventh hour to do “The Island of Dr. Moreau.” It changed everything. George made a noble effort. I was the problem with “Batman & Robin.” I never did a sequel to any of my movies, and sequels are only made for one reason: to make more money and sell more toys. I did my job. But I never got my ass in the seat right.

Why?
They immediately wanted a sequel, but I said yes. There’s nobody else to blame but me. I could have said, “No, I’m not going to do it.” I just hope whenever I see a list of the worst movies ever made, we’re not on it. I didn’t do a good job. George did. Chris [O’Donnell] did. Uma [Thurman] is brilliant in it. Arnold is Arnold.

How do you think Ben Affleck will do as Batman?
I think a lot of people discounted Ben. I think they’ve been shown that they were foolish and that he’s doing great.

Be sure to head over to Variety to read more from Schumacher about his work on the likes of Flatliners, A Time to Kill and Tigerland.

Originally published October 12, 2014. Updated April 13, 2018.

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About Gary Collinson

Gary Collinson is a film, TV and digital content producer and writer who is the Editor-in-Chief of the pop culture website Flickering Myth and producer of the gothic horror feature 'The Baby in the Basket' and suspense thriller 'Death Among the Pines'.

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